Fabrics that go well with velvet and satin(like)....

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#1 WondererBailey on 2 years ago

So yeah...I've been combing over my local fabric stores and I've found the perfect fabrics for my current project. One being velvet and the other a sort of satin like fabric (it's satiny).

The problem I've run into though is that I need to make a form fitting shirt but neither of those fabrics would work. I'm wondering what sort of fabric would work well with those?

My mom suggested a basic cotton, I was thinking a stretchy performance fabric....

Thoughts?

#2 lunaflora on 2 years ago

a nice smooth jersey could work. Or you could is use the crepe side of the satin (non-shiny side of satin). It really depends on what you're making. If you have any images to show it might help us give suggestions on what would work

#3 DlGlT on 2 years ago

Do you have a picture of what youre trying to make?

#4 WondererBailey on 2 years ago

[CENTER][IMG]https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/summoners-war-sky-arena/images/5/59/Lushen_Front.png[/IMG][/CENTER]

The yellow and black shirt.

However, I am open to other fabric suggestions, but at the moment I'm pretty sold on the velvet, the silly satin has the look and texture that I was thinking (pants and scarf) but I'd be willing to change if a better alternative is available.

Not sure if it's relevant, but I was planning on making a sort of "petticoat" like deal with a pair of leggings and tule to make the pants poof.

#5 CapsuleCorp on 2 years ago

That is a super-tiny picture, I can't even tell what part you're referring to.

Generally speaking, though, stretch knits aren't the only way to fit a garment to the body. If you're using a woven, it's all in the seaming. Darts and shaping seams. If the reference is vague on whether or not seams would be visible or be appropriate, then make it out of a woven with fitting seams that work best for the type of garment. Is that a coat? There are lots of coats with fitting seams.

Knits are better when you have a body-hugging garment that has no extra seams, or you want something with fewer seams. But if those sleeves are big puff sleeves, you don't want to even touch a knit. You can't do that with a knit without having them sag in very sad ways.

#6 WondererBailey on 2 years ago

Aahhh, I thought it might be too small. I'm posting from my phone so it's a little hard to tell.

[IMG]https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AF-UsfGwavM/VtILV1U-S6I/AAAAAAAAAas/oXC3_3uVPr0/s1600/Lushen.PNG[/IMG]

This one might be better.

Anyway, the poofy sleeve part is a part of the jacket (bolero~) and I've pretty much sorted that part out. The main thing that had me caught up was the shirt under it.

I've just been bouncing around different ways of tackling it since it's the two colors. One option was buying two of the same fabric in the desired colors and cutting the pieces accordingly (which would probably be more complicated than it needs to be). Another was to buy the yellow fabric and attempt to dye the black parts.

At least..those were the ones I thought of. And it would all depend on the fabric.

The way I was planning on making that under shirt was as a sort of tank top. Basically just keeping the general design simple.

Ugh, I dunno if any of that makes sense. Sorry OTL

#7 lunaflora on 2 years ago

The shoulders of the borelo are basically insanely padded shoulders. Think Lady Gaga level of shoulder-pads. I would do this borelo in a pleather/leather type fabric with gold/yellow trim.

The undershirt, I think your best bet is a knit shirt, and you either screen-print/paint the squares (easier), or you piece a shirt together with the two fabrics (cleaner lines, difficult).

The pants, you could certainly do a "petticoat" sort of thing on each leg of a pant to keep the structure of the balloon pants.

To be honest, I don't see satin and velvet at all when I look at this. It seems like knit fabrics to me. or solid cottons. Maybe a cotton sateen, if you want a bit of shine. However I don't think it's as shiny as actual satin. Velvet seems too rich a fabric for this.

#8 Penlowe on 2 years ago

I think the petticoat pants idea, while viable, will be warmer than you want. Traditional "pumpkin pants" just had a full cut and lots of stiff inner facing.
[url]https://www.patternsoftime.com/proddetail.php?prod=RC206[/url]

#9 WondererBailey on 2 years ago

[QUOTE=lunaflora;5059261]The shoulders of the borelo are basically insanely padded shoulders. Think Lady Gaga level of shoulder-pads. I would do this borelo in a pleather/leather type fabric with gold/yellow trim.

The undershirt, I think your best bet is a knit shirt, and you either screen-print/paint the squares (easier), or you piece a shirt together with the two fabrics (cleaner lines, difficult).

The pants, you could certainly do a "petticoat" sort of thing on each leg of a pant to keep the structure of the balloon pants.

To be honest, I don't see satin and velvet at all when I look at this. It seems like knit fabrics to me. or solid cottons. Maybe a cotton sateen, if you want a bit of shine. However I don't think it's as shiny as actual satin. Velvet seems too rich a fabric for this.[/QUOTE]


Heh, I was mainly trying to make it more...interesting? Which is why I was thinking more rich and bold fabrics. I've only ever seen this character cosplayed once and the person had gone with the pleather/leather look for the borelo and it just bugged me ^_^)'...it gave it its shape and all that well enough but I dunno...it just didn't really jive with me :confused:. -shrug-

Anyway, I'll check out the knit section and see if there's some possibilities.

#10 lunaflora on 2 years ago

[QUOTE=WondererBailey;5059283]Heh, I was mainly trying to make it more...interesting? Which is why I was thinking more rich and bold fabrics. I've only ever seen this character cosplayed once and the person had gone with the pleather/leather look for the borelo and it just bugged me ^_^)'...it gave it its shape and all that well enough but I dunno...it just didn't really jive with me :confused:. -shrug-

Anyway, I'll check out the knit section and see if there's some possibilities.[/QUOTE]

Of course, it's always good to be more creative and make things interesting. This is merely my interpretation of what the costume would be. My advice is to use the same fabric for the pants and the shirt. There is stretch satin and stretch velvet available, most likely in your local fabric/craft store, so you can use those for both pieces. Perhaps olive green velvet squares with the yellow and green being satin? If you use satin for the jacket, I highly recommend using interfacing to give it shape.

#11 CapsuleCorp on 2 years ago

Ahh yes I see now - the tiny pic made it look like all one top but now I see the bolero over a patterned shirt.

It doesn't appear like the shirt is the same color as the pants - the harlequin squares are green and other green, right? The shirt is black and yellow. You can easily do it out of a knit, make it nice and comfy. It doesn't have to be spandex, a rayon t-shirt knit would be thinner but quite comfy. Don't attempt to dye large blocks like that, though. Piecing is a better option, and barring that, fabric paint (watered down so it isn't so thick but not so watery it becomes like ink and splotches through your fabric). Paint would allow you to control your sharp-edged lines, while color-blocking it out of black and yellow would ensure complete color saturation.

But if you can't find knits you like, like I said, wovens are fine so long as you seam it to fit. The color blocks might even give you good excuses for fitting seams.

Either way, I don't think your actual problem to solve is what fabric looks good with velvet and satin. Cotton would be just fine, though if you want something that looks fancier, try sateen. Your only problem would be that it might not come in yellow, and that's a woven so you'd be seaming it to fit. There are other knits out there that aren't spandex dancewear nor cotton interlock, try a rayon-bamboo or something a little smoother with a fashionable look to it.

#12 WondererBailey on 2 years ago

Thank you all, this has been very helpful and informative! Bouncing these ideas around, I'll see what I can find.

#13 StarsOfCassiopeia on 2 years ago

^ Seconding the types that have been mentioned above. I'd also definitely buy two separate fabrics and do piecing-- trying to dye an isolated area is really tricky, especially if you wanna do that with black, because it never really comes out well & bold. Either cut your pieces and dye before you sew, or just buy things in the colors you need. (And if you absolutely need to dye, I'd try dyeing to get the yellow shade right, instead of the black!)

As for the pants, pumpkin pants are a great idea. Will also toss out [URL="https://www.google.com/search?q=harem+pants&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS731US731&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjBq5LtqvzUAhWFPz4KHUaOBcQQ_AUICygC&biw=1552&bih=785"]harem pants[/URL] as an option. Pumpkin pants tend to be a little more ruffle-y in look than harem pants, so it's your call.

#14 nathancarter on 2 years ago

Hey, Summoner's War! Nice. I'm thinking about a Galleon cosplay after I'm done with a couple things on my list. The coat would really push my skills in garment design and sewing, but there are probably patterns out there.

Someone posted a pretty good Praha cosplay on the SW reddit page last week.

More high-res reference material for Lushen:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcsLg14JSp8[/url]

#15 Ichigogami on 2 years ago

There's not really any magical puff pattern sleeve needed for that bolero..You can what is called a "lantern" sleeve and it will have the seam similar to what you're looking for without the added bulk to the sleeve head...

Here's a great example of it and how to pattern one...I also use really tough interfacing in mine and they don't tend to squish at all..
[url]https://3hourspast.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/fluttersleeve10.jpg[/url]

For the square color blocked shirt underneath I would use Ponte Knit...I prefer the Rayon or cotton blend one (usually at Joann's called Refined Ponte or Ponte De Roma) because it's more breathable..but it is my favorite knit to use for general clothing stuff

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