Does cosplay involve all arts?

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#1 Maurishio-kun on 1 year ago

I was looking for some paints for one of my further projects and after looking some painting material something suddenly came to my mind... Cosplay is a hobby that involves all arts! But how right I am? I've been analyzing some of them:

- Sewing: Of course you need to sew to make a costume.
- Photography: Cosplay photographers so the job!
- Hairstyling: A good wig always needs this art.
- Makeup: Very important, when character faces are not normal.
- Painting: Props never come in blank, they always need color.
- Sculpture: If you're making props you need to apply this, specially witn wood or foam.
- Cinematography: Making movies with your cosplays, no matter how simple they are.
- Music: If you're cosplaying a character from an idol anime this can include singing and dancing.
- Acting: Of course, that's how skits work, a cosplayers is technically some kind of fan actor after all.
- Comic: You have photos of yourself, you place them like a comic book page and add dialog balloons.
- Achrobatics: If you want to take your cosplay to the next level and want to do tricks over the stage, (Example: Sakura's cheerleading) this perfectly applies.
- Martial arts: Fighting characters are a good skit example.
- Magic: I saw someone here asking for some tricks to cosplay magician Tamako, so here's where it fits.

Am I forgetting any? Am I right or is there any art that cosplay doesn't include?

#2 Jei-Cos on 1 year ago

I think it can, yes. There are so many arts, and so far, I don't know of one you couldn't have in cosplay in one way or another.

#3 djlemma on 1 year ago

I don't know, it'd be a bit of a stretch to link cosplay to literature or architecture.. or like.. pottery.

But yeah, it's multi-disciplinary, and you get out of it what you put into it. Cosplay is awesome. :)

#4 Jei-Cos on 1 year ago

[QUOTE=djlemma;5065214]I don't know, it'd be a bit of a stretch to link cosplay to literature or architecture.. or like.. pottery.

But yeah, it's multi-disciplinary, and you get out of it what you put into it. Cosplay is awesome. :)[/QUOTE]

What if you cosplay a real person? That IS a thing that happens. So what about cosplaying a famous author and "writing" a book for photos, as in, a photo looking as if the cosplayer is posing as the author mid book writing.
Or more so, aren't cosplay magazines or cosplay related book considered literature?

Architecture? What about those who build stage pieces for cosplay shoots? Making smaller buildings for a cosplay of a giant or monster would be basically that, wouldn't it?

Pottery? That's clay working usually. I've seen clay made decorative bottles, which would be pottery.

I just think no matter the art, you can find a way to put it into cosplay if you want.

#5 Amanita on 1 year ago

Another way to combine architecture with cosplay is what I do- personified skyscrapers :)
The way I've built some of my previous headdresses is very similar to how architectural models used to be built, but I'm looking to switch to something more realistic.

#6 gypsy_girl on 1 year ago

I have some additions,

Modeling
Crocheting
Kitting
Beading
Embroidery
Cobbler
Millinery
Jewelry making
Blacksmithing

But you are correct, we are jack of all trades.

#7 Jei-Cos on 1 year ago

[QUOTE=Amanita;5065216]Another way to combine architecture with cosplay is what I do- personified skyscrapers :)
The way I've built some of my previous headdresses is very similar to how architectural models used to be built, but I'm looking to switch to something more realistic.[/QUOTE]

True! In fact, I was actually going to mention you in my reply about it, since that's is what you are known for, but I didn't know if you'd want me to or not, so I choose not to.

#8 Black Blossom on 1 year ago

I think cosplay can take from all forms of art -- just like in the art world, there is no one way of making something and there's always new discoveries.

Adding to the list is: 3D. While 3D is a very broad concept, especially in cosplay I'd count it. Some people make props and with materials to assemble them together pretty much falls under that category. Same with jewelry.
There's probably something that should be mentioned, is that unlike art we don't get payed for our time unless you're a commissioner or somehow turning cosplay into a full-time job. However, it's fine that we don't since we do this for fun.

#9 Maurishio-kun on 1 year ago

[QUOTE=djlemma;5065214]I don't know, it'd be a bit of a stretch to link cosplay to literature or architecture.. or like.. pottery.

But yeah, it's multi-disciplinary, and you get out of it what you put into it. Cosplay is awesome. :)[/QUOTE]

I think pottery can still apply, there's a School Idol Festival card set where they're dressed as Arabics, and Maki holds a pot in her unidolized card:

[IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/1a/fd/a91afd081a196568769dc987314a3adc.png[/IMG]

#10 Scunosi on 1 year ago

I'll just link this [URL="https://me.me/i/for-all-of-my-friends-who-cosplay-next-time-you-20451829"]Tumblr post [/URL]that basically sums this up. Sorry it's a crappy 9gag-equivalent link but it's the fastest I could find it.

Also isn't the main link between cosplay and literature just...cosplaying characters from books rather than visual media? I suppose there's other ways to include literature but that seems like the most...obvious one.

#11 Maurishio-kun on 1 year ago

[QUOTE=Scunosi;5065231] Also isn't the main link between cosplay and literature just...cosplaying characters from books rather than visual media? I suppose there's other ways to include literature but that seems like the most...obvious one.[/QUOTE]

Maybe also writing fanfics about your favorite cosplayers, or about yourself as a cosplayer.

#12 djlemma on 1 year ago

[QUOTE=Jei-Cos;5065215]What if you cosplay a real person? That IS a thing that happens. So what about cosplaying a famous author and "writing" a book for photos, as in, a photo looking as if the cosplayer is posing as the author mid book writing.
Or more so, aren't cosplay magazines or cosplay related book considered literature?

Architecture? What about those who build stage pieces for cosplay shoots? Making smaller buildings for a cosplay of a giant or monster would be basically that, wouldn't it?

Pottery? That's clay working usually. I've seen clay made decorative bottles, which would be pottery.

I just think no matter the art, you can find a way to put it into cosplay if you want.[/QUOTE]

Like I said, it's a stretch.

Cosplaying a character from a book is nothing at all like WRITING a book. Writing a book about cosplay is indeed literature, but it's not really cosplay. It's related to cosplay of course, but you could say the same thing about something like painting.

Architecture generally refers to, you know, buildings... Building staging and such is a different discipline, but. Hey, if you want to make that stretch, go for it. :)

But Cosplay isn't unique if you want to make a stretch like that. Is painting a building considered architecture? Is painting an amphora considered pottery?

Again, not saying cosplay isn't an awesome amazing wonderful multi-disciplinary modern art form. It's all those things. Just don't expect to get hired at an architecture firm based on your performance at a masquerade! :D

#13 djlemma on 1 year ago

[QUOTE=Scunosi;5065231]
Also isn't the main link between cosplay and literature just...cosplaying characters from books rather than visual media? I suppose there's other ways to include literature but that seems like the most...obvious one.[/QUOTE]

Sure, but for instance a costumer for a film or stage production wouldn't consider themselves a script writer just because they're working off a script. The script inspires and guides them, but their art is not in creating scripts, it's in creating costumes.

I am sure some costumers have also written novels and memoirs about costuming, but.. Again, pretty much any art form can be inspired by any other art form, so writing is just as interdisciplinary as cosplay if you're going to make such broad leaps.


I am just going to continue being the dissenting voice in this thread since nobody else seems to want to be. :)

#14 Jei-Cos on 1 year ago

[QUOTE=djlemma;5065235]Like I said, it's a stretch.

Cosplaying a character from a book is nothing at all like WRITING a book. Writing a book about cosplay is indeed literature, but it's not really cosplay. It's related to cosplay of course, but you could say the same thing about something like painting.[/QUOTE]
I never said anything about cosplaying a character from a book. I said cosplayoing a character who WRITES the books. An author is someone who writes literature. Therefore if you cosplay them, you are cosplaying someone who is the business of writing literature, therefore if you use one of their books as your prop, you are literally incorporating literature into your cosplay.

[QUOTE=djlemma;5065235]Architecture generally refers to, you know, buildings... Building staging and such is a different discipline, but. Hey, if you want to make that stretch, go for it. :)[/QUOTE]
Please read Amanita's post. They literally just said they use a lot of the same techniques used in architecture to build their cosplays, which are buildings. So yes..It would refer to buildings..You know, the thing they literally just said they do for costumes? It's not "making a stretch"..It IS a thing. People DO it.

[QUOTE=djlemma;5065235]But Cosplay isn't unique if you want to make a stretch like that. Is painting a building considered architecture? Is painting an amphora considered pottery?[/QUOTE]
Cosplay ISN'T unique though. Every school play does the same thing cosplayers do: Dress up as characters. It's not as unique as you seem to think it is.
No, I don't think painting a building is architecture. If you think architecture is ONLY buildings big enough to walk into, that isn't my problem. If you don't want to read the thread here, in which someone (Amanita) specifically stated they use the same techniques, again, not my problem.
Do I think painting an amphora is the art of pottery? Where did I imply that? If anyones making stretches it's you. I said, and I quote:
[QUOTE=Jei-Cos;5065215]Pottery? That's clay working usually. I've seen clay made decorative bottles, which would be pottery.[/QUOTE]
If you didn't read that..Yet again, not my problem. Maybe do that FIRST before making assumtions about what I'm saying. You even quoted me yourself, and went on implying I said things that I didn't. How can you read "I've seen clay made decorative bottles, which would be pottery" and think that I was talking about painting?

[QUOTE=djlemma;5065235]Again, not saying cosplay isn't an awesome amazing wonderful multi-disciplinary modern art form. It's all those things. Just don't expect to get hired at an architecture firm based on your performance at a masquerade! :D[/QUOTE]
What are you even talking about now? No one is saying they think they should get a job in architecture because they performed on stage..And WE'RE making stretches? Just..Wow....

#15 lunaflora on 1 year ago

There's this growing hostility in this conversation and reading it is making me anxious.
Yes, a cosplay can incorporate elements of all facets of arts, crafts, and disciplines, but I am hesitant to say that cosplay in general does. Unless you're cosplaying someone holding a pot, or have models of buildings incorporated in the costume or skit, or wearing a real metal suit of armor, chances are you aren't going to be dealing with pottery or architecture or blacksmithing. Is is possible to incorporate it in? Yes. Is it likely? Not in my opinion. If we go as far as to say that cosplay incorporates all art forms, you could also argue that ALL disciplines incorporate everything, given the right circumstances. It's kind of like saying Psychology involves cosplay just because you're studying how the psychology of cosplay. That person doing the study may cosplay for research, so you could say their study involves cosplay, but you can't really say Psychology itself involves cosplay.

TL;DR I think cosplay in general does not involve all arts, but the individual cosplay can.

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