Android 18 Teaser shot: crituque requested

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#1 figment1986 on 5 years ago

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I wish to get some critques on this image, It has been VERY LITTLE edited so far.

#2 fam-cosplayphotographer on 5 years ago

If im reading the exif data right....the lens is an f2 but youre at 4.5 and im not sure why unless it magically gets super sharp stopped down...the trees and building and the leaves didnt need to be in focus so I would have stuck with f2- f2.8 here once youre locked on to her eye.

The good....
Composition with rule of thirds and general balance seems ok
you used flash when you saw the sun was overpowering and you knew you needed it.
Youve got a nice highlights on her outline thanks to the sun
the not so peachy
the sun is only lighting the outlines of her legs and one of her arms...her head ...the most important part to backlight...is left in the dark...im feeling like she should probably have been facing the right side of the frame to get some super fun shots with the light.
The flash has made some shadows, makes her face look odd here...maybe some of it is the shine on the wig
shooting upward even slightly is not always flattering
The sun\lens flare is really low in the frame...causes an odd response to me visually....but im not saying everyone will see it that way
Sometimes flare is awesome if it helps your shot...but here if it were blocked by the tree...the tree could have framed your subject with less distraction....I would have shot it both ways with you blocking the sun and trying a few things getting her to light up....
with the sun that low...golden hour couldnt have been too far off and thats the time of day you want for shooting with the sun in the face rather than behind...more or less...there's exceptions to every rule. Im not wanting to be critical youre doing good things you didnt even a few weeks ago so keep rocking it....im not the best either im just giving you tips on what may or may not help you.

With the sun behind you try to use it to your advantage so it brings out the shapes of their body\face....the lens flare is a personal preference.
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Have no fear...in a couple days I have a tomb raider shoot in a new venue that may or may not work for me...so...you may have plenty to critique on me if i dont ace it.

#3 figment1986 on 5 years ago

I will say why I like the lens flair, Android 18 was a villain... and in this shot the lens flair looks like it is an explosion happening in that direction and she's not even flinching. it compliments the character. Yes i should work on the flash a little better. and the main issue... shooting with a flash on a T3i the HIGHEST you can go shutter wise is 1/200. to compensate i needed to raise the ISO. otherwise all of the shots would have been over exposed really bad. If anyone has a solution to this, tell me.

#4 nathancarter on 5 years ago

Thanks for leaving EXIF intact, that helps a lot.

Settings look reasonable. You're at the bottom end of the ISO range and the top end of your shutter speed (if using flash), so unless you have a ND filter, it's appropriate to use the aperture to keep exposure in check.

You can experiment with HSS (high-speed sync) to be able to use an even faster shutter speed, but I have no experience with this. If your flash was already at max power, HSS wouldn't have improved anything.

Without changing any other settings, standing farther away and using a longer focal length to keep the same framing, will usually give you a shallower effective depth-of-field. But if you were using a 35mm f/2, that's not really relevant here. At least you weren't right in her face and at 18mm. :)

Are you using the pop-up flash, or are you using a Speedlight? If a Speedlight, which one?
I agree that in this case, the flash coming from very close to the lens axis is a little unflattering; you get that glare on the shiny wig, the hot catchlights right in the center of the eyes, and the brightly lit underside of the nose.

EXIF says you're using LR5.3. Assuming you shot in raw, this one could benefit a lot from some raw processing. Shooting into the sun will give you a washed-out, low-contrast look. Recover some detail by cranking the Contrast slider way up (maybe +50 to +75), then pull up the shadows if needed to brighten the subject, and gently increase the Clarity* a little bit to give it some pop. See what happens if you pull down the Highlights and Whites sliders too, to temper the intrusion of the sun flare. A little warmer global white balance might help, but be careful with the skin tones. Increasing the global Contrast slider will also increase saturation, so you might need to tweak Vibrance and Saturation to keep the skin tones in check.

*Clarity slider: Don't go crazy with it when shooting people - ESPECIALLY women. Too much Clarity will make skin look bad, real bad. Landscapes, cityscapes, cars, monsters, armor - all of these can benefit from some added Clarity, but increasing it more than about +10 on a portrait of a woman is often a lousy idea.

** Note, you can temper back a high global Clarity slider, by using the adjustment brush to clean and adjust specific areas such as skin. Takes practice and finesse, though: It's easy to go too far in the other direction and turn the skin into plastic, or mush.

I posted a week or so ago in the Picture of the Day thread, where I shot directly into the sun. I can find those process settings and post them if you like. Note, I was also using two off-camera lights in those shots.

Overall, I think it's better than much of the rest you've posted recently. Good job.

#5 figment1986 on 5 years ago

[QUOTE=nathancarter;4837682]Thanks for leaving EXIF intact, that helps a lot.

Settings look reasonable. You're at the bottom end of the ISO range and the top end of your shutter speed (if using flash), so unless you have a ND filter, it's appropriate to use the aperture to keep exposure in check.

You can experiment with HSS (high-speed sync) to be able to use an even faster shutter speed, but I have no experience with this. If your flash was already at max power, HSS wouldn't have improved anything.

Without changing any other settings, standing farther away and using a longer focal length to keep the same framing, will usually give you a shallower effective depth-of-field. But if you were using a 35mm f/2, that's not really relevant here. At least you weren't right in her face and at 18mm. :)

Are you using the pop-up flash, or are you using a Speedlight? If a Speedlight, which one?
I agree that in this case, the flash coming from very close to the lens axis is a little unflattering; you get that glare on the shiny wig, the hot catchlights right in the center of the eyes, and the brightly lit underside of the nose.

EXIF says you're using LR5.3. Assuming you shot in raw, this one could benefit a lot from some raw processing. Shooting into the sun will give you a washed-out, low-contrast look. Recover some detail by cranking the Contrast slider way up (maybe +50 to +75), then pull up the shadows if needed to brighten the subject, and gently increase the Clarity* a little bit to give it some pop. See what happens if you pull down the Highlights and Whites sliders too, to temper the intrusion of the sun flare. A little warmer global white balance might help, but be careful with the skin tones. Increasing the global Contrast slider will also increase saturation, so you might need to tweak Vibrance and Saturation to keep the skin tones in check.

*Clarity slider: Don't go crazy with it when shooting people - ESPECIALLY women. Too much Clarity will make skin look bad, real bad. Landscapes, cityscapes, cars, monsters, armor - all of these can benefit from some added Clarity, but increasing it more than about +10 on a portrait of a woman is often a lousy idea.

** Note, you can temper back a high global Clarity slider, by using the adjustment brush to clean and adjust specific areas such as skin. Takes practice and finesse, though: It's easy to go too far in the other direction and turn the skin into plastic, or mush.

I posted a week or so ago in the Picture of the Day thread, where I shot directly into the sun. I can find those process settings and post them if you like. Note, I was also using two off-camera lights in those shots.

Overall, I think it's better than much of the rest you've posted recently. Good job.[/QUOTE]

I really have never used clarity before... I "forgot" to fix the white balance on that teaser shot... here is what I ended up now

[IMG]http://i60.tinypic.com/rcpmw4.jpg[/IMG]

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