Glowy eyes/accessories and Smoke tutorial

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#16 Saeru on 13 years ago

My personal experiences with nailpolish over large areas have been unsuccessful, at least in achieving a uniform look. For about the same price you can get some glow in the dark spraypaint/regular craft paint, which should be better for you. Probably a bit brighter, too.
But its a territory I'm not familiar with, unfortunately. ^.^;

#17 ph1shf00d on 13 years ago

Woo! Thread necro-ing, anyone? XD

I was thinking about using this technique for Simon from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. If you're unfamiliar with the show, basically Simon has these digging goggles that light up when he needs to see in dark places- basically portable flashlights for your eyes. At the same time, he's able to see through them, which is my first question.

Is it possible to see through the EL? I'm assuming that it's opaque (seeing as how you had to cut around them to see...or did I miss something?

If they're opaque, then I'm guessing I could frame the edges of the goggle with the EL strips and get a little shine from those... How bright would you say the glow is? Say, if I lined the goggles on the very edges of the lenses, would I still get a noticeable shine coming through?

Also, are the "Samples" found here ([url]http://www.luminousfilm.com/specials.htm[/url]) kind of like "sets" that come with everything you need? You mentioned an inverter and some other stuff which all seems to be included in these "packages." Just want to make sure.

Thanks a ton!

#18 Saeru on 13 years ago

[QUOTE=ph1shf00d;2074958]Woo! Thread necro-ing, anyone? XD

I was thinking about using this technique for Simon from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. If you're unfamiliar with the show, basically Simon has these digging goggles that light up when he needs to see in dark places- basically portable flashlights for your eyes. At the same time, he's able to see through them, which is my first question.

Is it possible to see through the EL? I'm assuming that it's opaque (seeing as how you had to cut around them to see...or did I miss something?

If they're opaque, then I'm guessing I could frame the edges of the goggle with the EL strips and get a little shine from those... How bright would you say the glow is? Say, if I lined the goggles on the very edges of the lenses, would I still get a noticeable shine coming through?

Also, are the "Samples" found here ([url]http://www.luminousfilm.com/specials.htm[/url]) kind of like "sets" that come with everything you need? You mentioned an inverter and some other stuff which all seems to be included in these "packages." Just want to make sure.

Thanks a ton![/QUOTE]


The EL sheeting is opaque, but making a frame seems like it would work. If that is the route you decide to go, you could probably use EL wire, which is easier to get a hold of and much more flexible. The brightness of the wire/sheeting depends entirely on how much voltage is coming through, so if you tack on more batteries then you'll get a brighter glow.
From what I can tell the 'packages' are pretty good sets. *nods* You might still need to do a little work soldering and cutting wires, but it looks like they have everything that you need.
For goggles, though, you might have even better luck with LEDs and one of those nice silver-y reflective inverse-domes(like they use in flashlights). I just used something flat in Sora's eyes because they had to look like they -were- my eyes.

Hope this helps!

#19 Crazy Flower on 12 years ago

Well, I come back to this thread after a few months.

It looks like I'm gonna be needing the sheeting since I'm working on two plushies (So I need two pieces) Did you just use yellow film from like the supermarket? BTW, I found a decent spot on ebay which carries small pieces (like 2" x 2" and 4" x 4") and has the converter with it. (When searching, look for Electroluminescent panel instead of just EL) Do you also know if the sheet can be glued on the top and not have it damage the lighting?

Have you also tested if it can be coated with epoxy resin?

Instead of going through ebay, you can access their [URL="http://caribbeancustomdesigns.com/shop/"]web site[/URL] and click on the EL panel on the side. Much cheaper than what I've seen, and the inverter comes with it.

#20 Saeru on 12 years ago

[QUOTE=Crazy Flower;2102578]Well, I come back to this thread after a few months.

It looks like I'm gonna be needing the sheeting since I'm working on two plushies (So I need two pieces) Did you just use yellow film from like the supermarket? BTW, I found a decent spot on ebay which carries small pieces (like 2" x 2" and 4" x 4") and has the converter with it. (When searching, look for Electroluminescent panel instead of just EL) Do you also know if the sheet can be glued on the top and not have it damage the lighting?

Have you also tested if it can be coated with epoxy resin?

Instead of going through ebay, you can access their [URL="http://caribbeancustomdesigns.com/shop/"]web site[/URL] and click on the EL panel on the side. Much cheaper than what I've seen, and the inverter comes with it.[/QUOTE]

I don't believe the lighting would be damaged by being glued, so long as you're not using a glue that eats into lighter plastics. I had the outside laminated (and that is, after all, just clear-sheet with glue) with no detrimental effects. Its compatibility with resin would need to be tested, but if you do so, I would love to see the results. o.o
I did, pretty much, just use yellow translucent plastic, which can be purchased from a normal Wal-Mart type source, so I'd assume its readily available.

Thankyou muchly for the link, as well!

#21 Zabuz on 12 years ago

[QUOTE=Saeru;1972549]I have noticed that Luminousfilm no longer carries their 'by the foot' EL sheeting. They still have it in stock, but you'll have to call and tell them the sizes that you need. Recently its been getting really HARD to find online dealers of this stuff, though...so I wish I did knew what to tell you. I spent a day researching it for a friend of mine and came up with nil. If you call around, though, both Luminousfilm and Beeing Seen( [url]http://www.beingseen.com/[/url] ) do have a pretty good selection of sizes.[/QUOTE]

Thank you ^^^


I didn't see that you answerd til' now x'D


I think I've seen that page before but I didn't understand ...(now that I think about it... what was it I didn't understand oO') but I do now ^^^'b

Excouse me and my spelling right now, I really can't wright with these keys since it's not my computer, I can't even spell swedish right now xX''b

#22 Zabuz on 12 years ago

[QUOTE=Crazy Flower;2102578]

Instead of going through ebay, you can access their [URL="http://caribbeancustomdesigns.com/shop/"]web site[/URL] and click on the EL panel on the side. Much cheaper than what I've seen, and the inverter comes with it.[/QUOTE]



damn... at times like theese, I wish I knew every single word in english...

well... I was looking at that page and I noticed that there is a... cabelthing (oO) in the middle of the sheet... and now I wonder about that... can you use the whole sheet or just the area around that cabelthing (...)

And I was looking at Saeru's picture of the eyes and just wondered how your sheet looked like, if it looked like the one from CCD oO

#23 shaowebb on 12 years ago

Im in college studying to be an engineer and allow me to just tip a hat to you.
This was an awesome tutorial and Im impressed by your creativity. I think I may do something similar to this on a Dark Prince of Persia cosplay sometime in the future.
About how much life is there per bottle of smoke in these bracelets you designed?
Ie...how long do they smoke per bottle before running out?

#24 Saeru on 12 years ago

[QUOTE=shaowebb;2141547]Im in college studying to be an engineer and allow me to just tip a hat to you.
This was an awesome tutorial and Im impressed by your creativity. I think I may do something similar to this on a Dark Prince of Persia cosplay sometime in the future.
About how much life is there per bottle of smoke in these bracelets you designed?
Ie...how long do they smoke per bottle before running out?[/QUOTE]

A little bit of smoke goes a pretty long way...
A few hours, I'd say. More depending on how large you make your little squeeze bottle.
Thankyou, also. ^.^

#25 Crazy Flower on 12 years ago

[QUOTE=Zabuz;2140154]
well... I was looking at that page and I noticed that there is a... cabelthing (oO) in the middle of the sheet... and now I wonder about that... can you use the whole sheet or just the area around that cabelthing (...)

And I was looking at Saeru's picture of the eyes and just wondered how your sheet looked like, if it looked like the one from CCD oO[/QUOTE]


If you look at Saeru's picture on the front page, it shows that the cable is connected to the panel. This is what allows the panel to light up. You can cut around the edges, as long as you don't cut the entire top strip off. Make sure to laminate the edges. What I did, is I coated the edges with a sticky plastic, then wrapped the edges with electrical tape (the black tape that's a bit stretchy)

CCD has now separated their inverters from their panels. May be a bit more cumbersome, but it looks to be cheaper. Also, for a dollar more, they can color it for you.

#26 Zabuz on 12 years ago

[QUOTE=Crazy Flower;2150622]If you look at Saeru's picture on the front page, it shows that the cable is connected to the panel. This is what allows the panel to light up. You can cut around the edges, as long as you don't cut the entire top strip off. Make sure to laminate the edges. What I did, is I coated the edges with a sticky plastic, then wrapped the edges with electrical tape (the black tape that's a bit stretchy)

CCD has now separated their inverters from their panels. May be a bit more cumbersome, but it looks to be cheaper. Also, for a dollar more, they can color it for you.[/QUOTE]


but...*damn* is there 2 cables to each panel then? one from each side, or is there ... it's just that the cables that goes from the middle at Saeru's picture looks so much smaller. oO'

Scouse' me if I don't understan everything _ _'b I'm kinda tired and since english isn't my language... - -'

#27 Crazy Flower on 12 years ago

I commend you. I have trouble with English, and it's my first language.

You're making a circuit, basically. As long as there's a loop between the two panels, the power source, and the converter, you're ok. I used two converters, because my panels were in separate pieces.

You have the two wires so you can make a circle. If you want to make a circuit, you go from battery to converter to one side of the panel, connect the panels, out the other side, back through the converter (through the second wire) and back to the battery. It's like getting back to the starting position if all you have is one-way streets.

(Next week, Ohm's law! I made an EE joke)

#28 Zabuz on 12 years ago

[QUOTE=Crazy Flower;2152322]I commend you. I have trouble with English, and it's my first language.

You're making a circuit, basically. As long as there's a loop between the two panels, the power source, and the converter, you're ok. I used two converters, because my panels were in separate pieces.

You have the two wires so you can make a circle. If you want to make a circuit, you go from battery to converter to one side of the panel, connect the panels, out the other side, back through the converter (through the second wire) and back to the battery. It's like getting back to the starting position if all you have is one-way streets.

(Next week, Ohm's law! I made an EE joke)[/QUOTE]


Thank you so much xX'b

now it seems like I only need to order the stuff : D

^^^b

#29 Kimimiu on 11 years ago

Saeru, how exactly did you go about as anti-sora? I assume you cannot see through the mask as the EL sheet is opaque, so did you put on the mask whenever pictures were taken or did you find a way to wear the mask yet see at the same time?

#30 CrazzedShinobi on 11 years ago

im looking to be anti-form sora and i was wondering about the glowing eyes i feel its very important

so my question for you today is how can you see out of those things

but your saying its a sheet of the stuff and you just cut it into circles and it will still glow after you cut it

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