Dotcon - New Toronto Convention?

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#1 Chibik3r0 on 10 years ago

I kept seeing banners/ads in the dealer's room at Anime North for a new Toronto convention in November. Does anyone have any more information regarding it? Searching the forums, I can only find one thread about some movie screening before MTAC. Thanks!

#2 uchihahime on 10 years ago

The website is dot-con.com - I was just checking it out, cuz I'm kind of interested. I think it's going to be a small convention, though.

#3 Crunchbite on 10 years ago

Too many conventions starting to pop up down south. Its going to be over-saturated soon.

#4 Suga Babe on 10 years ago

Yes, the website for DotCon is: [url]http://www.dot-con.com/[/url]

The three layouts on the website all have the same information, but each layout is for each mascot. We have three mascots -- Uzumaki [left], Maruko [middle] and Dot [right].

It is going to be a small convention, at the Holiday Inn on King, because this will be our first time doing it -- but we've all been going to Cons for a very long time...so we're taking our experiences and putting them into this Con.

And actually, there aren't many Cons here in Toronto. The only real anime convention in Toronto is Anime North.

Anyways, we'll have more info up about the special events as soon as we're able! There will also be a forum up pretty soon!

Lastly, if you're fans of Chris Patton, Cherami Leigh and/or Caitlin Glass -- they're coming to DotCon!

We hope to see you all at the first DotCon convention!

#5 spector on 10 years ago

The dot-con convention is slated for November, in Toronto and while it might seem like it will be a small con right now, it will largely depend on interest and attendance. All Cons start somewhere and usually start small and get bigger as their reputation and general interest increases. If you are interested in this event, then talk to others about it, get the word out and build up interest...which is always a hard thing to do with an event that is 6 months away.
I know some of the people working on putting this 2 day con on and I know that they are working hard trying to arrange for quality guests and programing...so partly the rest is up to you...I know I'm going to be there. Cheers. :)

#6 EgnirysFaye on 10 years ago

Dotcon eh? Cute name (Though it doesn't really..stick out much)

It will be too far for me to commute over just for a small con, but maybe in the future if it's good. I'm having a hard time with the site though, but not sure if it's just me?

#7 Kia on 10 years ago

[QUOTE=Crunchbite;2442162]Too many conventions starting to pop up down south. Its going to be over-saturated soon.[/QUOTE]

Soon? Ha, the convention scene in the GTA has been over saturated for years. (It's actually kind of funny to hear this now, since I remember having big discussions on this forum about how over saturated everything was getting a couple of years ago). Since 2004 we've gone from just having Anime North and CNAnime (now Fan Expo) to having December/March Toronto Anime Con (which was in November the first time it ran), Northern Anime Festival, and for a short period of time GCAF and ConNoBaka. Around 2005/2006 it felt like at least a half dozen new cons popped up out of nowhere, and almost just as many people were proposing starting new cons, or fishing around for information about how they could do so themselves. Now *that* was oversaturated.

Granted, not all of them have survived the test of time (some have even crashed and burned in such a way that I don't think any of us who experienced it will ever forget), but I'm unsure if it was because of poor management from the convention heads, lack of interest/promotion in an already over saturated market, or (more likely) a combination of the two.

But anyway, I remember seeing a banner for Don-Con, but I didn't really have the headspace to connect it with actually being a convention. I'm interested to see how it turns out though, since November is one of those months with it's pros and cons. It's a slow time of year convention wise, but it's also in the middle of midterms for university students, and before the money crunch of Christmas. It also appears to be backed by One Million Comix, which I find rather interesting (but in more of an "Oh, that's cool" kind of sense).

I'll probably mark it down in my calendar. Not sure if I'll go yet, since there isn't any information about events within the con available yet, so there's no way of telling if it's just another glorified Hobbystar TAC with just a dealer's room and some sad attempt at programming. ^_^

#8 Suga Babe on 10 years ago

[QUOTE=Kia;2445156]I'll probably mark it down in my calendar. Not sure if I'll go yet, since there isn't any information about events within the con available yet, so there's no way of telling if it's just another glorified Hobbystar TAC with just a dealer's room and some sad attempt at programming. ^_^[/QUOTE]

ha, no. It's not another Hobbystar TAC event. We're working on programming.

[QUOTE=kikyo82;2445332]I went to that site and I didn't see a date for it. When is it?

Edit: I eventually saw the date but it went by really fast, it's kinda hard to look for it.[/QUOTE]

It's November 15-16, 2008. I have a countdown up on each layout and on the main index page -- but I'll put up 'Nov 15-16' there as well.

#9 Suga Babe on 10 years ago

[QUOTE=kikyo82;2445831]@Suga Babe: Thanks![/QUOTE]

No problem!

I added the date to the index page and all the layouts -- so it should be easier to find now!

Sorry for the inconvenience earlier.

#10 DJ_Izumi on 10 years ago

We had the following conversation when we saw the con's table at Anime North.

"New convention in Toronto?"
"Seems so."
"C Dot Con?"
"I think it's Dot C Con."
"Maybe it's Dotcon?"
"But there's two C's in the graphic."
"But it's just 'Dot-con' in their web address."
"...Let's go look at something with a less confusing logo."
"Okay."

Personally, I think 'Dot Con' is a pretty bad name for a convention. Well, no, 'Con No Baka' had people going 'Stupid con?' and that was really bad. But 'Dot Con' is just sooooooo generic. I can enter 'Anime North', 'AC Cubed' or 'CNAnime' into google and get their respective sites on the first hit. 'Dot Con', 'Dot-Con' or 'Dotcon' don't get you anything relevent on the first PAGE of Google even. The name is just so notspecial, so used for so many other things and it's not even really something that'll stick in your head.

I'm not wishing ill will for the convention at all, it's just that you have a problem with your name when someone tries to Google your con's website and the first thing google says is: Did you mean: Totcon?

#11 Crunchbite on 10 years ago

[QUOTE=Kia;2445156]Soon? Ha, the convention scene in the GTA has been over saturated for years. (It's actually kind of funny to hear this now, since I remember having big discussions on this forum about how over saturated everything was getting a couple of years ago). Since 2004 we've gone from just having Anime North and CNAnime (now Fan Expo) to having December/March Toronto Anime Con (which was in November the first time it ran), Northern Anime Festival, and for a short period of time GCAF and ConNoBaka. Around 2005/2006 it felt like at least a half dozen new cons popped up out of nowhere, and almost just as many people were proposing starting new cons, or fishing around for information about how they could do so themselves. Now *that* was oversaturated.
[/QUOTE]

The first time i have said that the GTA was getting over-saturated was about 3-4 years ago after i found out about Northern Anime Festival. Although it's doing fine as a small convention and there is always room for a couple small events in an area like the GTA. But now this is getting sad. I think you guys are up to about 6-7 Anime related conventions a year.

#12 KittyCanuck on 10 years ago

[QUOTE=DJ_Izumi;2446795]
Personally, I think 'Dot Con' is a pretty bad name for a convention. Well, no, 'Con No Baka' had people going 'Stupid con?' and that was really bad. But 'Dot Con' is just sooooooo generic. I can enter 'Anime North', 'AC Cubed' or 'CNAnime' into google and get their respective sites on the first hit. 'Dot Con', 'Dot-Con' or 'Dotcon' don't get you anything relevent on the first PAGE of Google even. The name is just so notspecial, so used for so many other things and it's not even really something that'll stick in your head.

I'm not wishing ill will for the convention at all, it's just that you have a problem with your name when someone tries to Google your con's website and the first thing google says is: Did you mean: Totcon?[/QUOTE]

Personally, I think DotCon is a really cute name for a convention held in the "T-Dot". ^_~ (not that I think T-Dot is a good abbreviation for Toronto, but DotCon is still cute).

The website is brand new, so it won't even be in Google yet. Anime North and CN Anime have had years to get a gook rank in Google, so you can't hold that against them just yet.
No new website is going to come up on the first page of Google it's been indexed and people start to link to it.

That said, I think their website looks really.... geared toward the 13/14 year old crowd and unprofessional, what with the 3 different layouts (before even finishing all the information and pages), and using multiple different things in the various layouts (popups, iframes, huge spacing in the browser title bar, dozens of images that have to load before you can read the pages, what?) that just look like someone was having fun playing with the code. I get that it's brand new, and that designing websites is fun, but it makes it more difficult to get any information about the con itself.

#13 Ryocha on 10 years ago

Around November this year, eh?
Well, I'm somehow glad that AC3 is on hiatus for a year, granted that means there's two competing cons around next November then. >>

#14 chicken_lover on 10 years ago

Hm... this may sound interesting. I'll keep an eye out for this con.

#15 Suga Babe on 10 years ago

[QUOTE=KittyCanuck;2447814]Personally, I think DotCon is a really cute name for a convention held in the "T-Dot". ^_~ (not that I think T-Dot is a good abbreviation for Toronto, but DotCon is still cute).

The website is brand new, so it won't even be in Google yet. Anime North and CN Anime have had years to get a gook rank in Google, so you can't hold that against them just yet.
No new website is going to come up on the first page of Google it's been indexed and people start to link to it.[/quote]

Ditto that.

[quote]That said, I think their website looks really.... geared toward the 13/14 year old crowd and unprofessional, what with the 3 different layouts (before even finishing all the information and pages), and using multiple different things in the various layouts (popups, iframes, huge spacing in the browser title bar, dozens of images that have to load before you can read the pages, what?) that just look like someone was having fun playing with the code. I get that it's brand new, and that designing websites is fun, but it makes it more difficult to get any information about the con itself.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the feedback! I just wanted to address some things you mentioned...

The reason why it looks the way it does is because we wanted to stray from the "convention" look -- we didn't want our website to have a cold look to it. Also, having the three layouts allows for the user to have an option when browsing. If they don't like Uzumaki -- there's Maruko -- and if not her, there's Dot.

I didn't want to combine one website for the three mascots, either, because they all have a different feel to them; there's a story for each mascot.

Uzu is more of the in-his-own world type of guy and hangs out mostly in Shibuya; thus the background in his layout with the Dotcon subliminal logos and what not.

Maruko, on the other hand, is more of the hip one. She's the sibling with the most fashion know how and likes to do things related to; thus the [URL="http://kosensei.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/purikura2.jpg"]purikura-esque layout[/URL] for her.

Lastly, Dot is more of the kid-with-super-powers-but-no-one-believes-him kid; thus the comic bubbles and what not in the layout.

And, we had to put up the layout before all the information because if we wait until the last minute -- no one will be coming to the con. There's a lot of cons that put up info at the last minute. Anime North, for example, didn't put up their schedule until two days before the convention itself.

Going back to the beginning -- that's also why we have the three layouts -- if you don't enjoy the pop-ups and i-frames and what not -- you can use Dot's layout. His only uses Javascript, Div Layers, Tables and CSS.

Again, it takes long to load because it has all those images. It has all those images because we didn't want a plain background [like white or black or whatever else].

[QUOTE=Ryocha;2448102]Around November this year, eh?
Well, I'm somehow glad that AC3 is on hiatus for a year, granted that means there's two competing cons around next November then. >>[/QUOTE]

They're around the same time -- but not the same weekend. So thats good, I suppose...?

[QUOTE=chicken_lover;2449133]Hm... this may sound interesting. I'll keep an eye out for this con.[/QUOTE]

Awesome~

Hope to see you there!