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#1 dusklux on 2 years ago

Does anyone have good patterns or tips for someone who wants to make Noctis' outfit?

I'm thinking of using [url]http://fabricville.com/en/fabrics/fashion-fabrics/leather-suede-looks/suede-look/butter-soft-suede-black.html[/url]
this fabric for the jacket and possibly even the pants but
I have no clue how to do any of the designs on the jacket. For the shoulders, as shown here:
[url]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/0/09/Noctis_and_Gladiolus_Talking_During_Camp.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150609214505[/url]
Is that a stitching effect or is it padding do you think?

#2 ExSoldier-Cloud on 2 years ago

Hey Dusklux,

I would suggest using these images from the official designer of Noctis' outfit from the game: [url]https://roen-ff15.com/en/html/products/detail.php?product_id=16[/url] (Jacket-shirt)
[url]https://roen-ff15.com/en/html/products/list.php?category_id=7[/url] (the rest of his costume mostly)

I wouldn't suggest suede since it's not really the fabric that's being used in his costume, but whatever feels comfortable for you. I'd compare fabrics to the reference images first before committing to buying the suede. To be honest, I'm a stickler for details and accuracy, in the costume sense (not the body type, I don't care how someone looks, as long as a costume is done with quality and precision, but that's just me.))

The fabric I would suggest for both his jacket (could be considered a Chambray, here's an example of one [url]https://grishley.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/gp750128-00p01v01.jpg[/url]) and pants are black denim. Once you have the denim, I would wax it to give it a somewhat reflective-shiny look. Here's an example of waxed denim. [url]https://cdnb.lystit.com/photos/0ed8-2015/10/02/diesel-black-gold-black-waxed-effect-jeans-product-3-590360700-normal.jpeg[/url]

To wax denim, there are several tutorials on how to do that on Youtube, I say just watch a few videos to see what you like the best. Apparently, there's a way of using candle wax or/and another method where you can use black acrylic paint with a gel medium (gel medium is usually used in paintings to give texture and give a look of shine, [url]http://www.dickblick.com/products/golden-acrylic-gel-mediums/?clickTracking=true&wmcp=pla&wmcid=items&wmckw=00628-1085&gclid=CjwKEAiAmo_CBRC9qbGQssjqi28SJABYTgZxms1yJykVGRqw98_l1HHaZr4lSVR2mzgf3PEOMjy0qBoCix3w_wcB[/url] ----this is the product I've seen used, you can usually buy it at an arts and craft store)

As for the pattern/design of the chambray, I would say either look for a similar chambray that fits you and create a pattern from that. If you don't have a shirt like that, try a thrift store and see if you can find something similar and add to the pattern from that as your base. Another thing you can try is looking in pattern books at fabric stores. Choose a pattern that looks similar and again, work off of that as a basis for the chambray. Here's a video of how to make a chambray. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZNqh2zpd1E[/url] As for the design for the shoulders, it seems to me to look like it's a combinatiion of padding and stitching. A thin layer of some padding underneath, stitching to the shoulder sleeve.

As for the pants, I would say the same as above, work off of some pants or shorts of similar fabric (like denim) and add onto that, adjusting the length of the pants however tall you are. Here's how to make a pattern from scratch and how to assemble it: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es7i00FAGjc[/url] . And here's a video of how to copy a pattern of existing pants you may have: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTE_3XoaHrI[/url] .

A lot of pre-planning must go into this costume! It should be fun! If I ever do make it, I'll show you what I have done as well. :) Hope this helps.

#3 dusklux on 2 years ago

[QUOTE=ExSoldier-Cloud;5045599]Hey Dusklux,

I would suggest using these images from the official designer of Noctis' outfit from the game: [url]https://roen-ff15.com/en/html/products/detail.php?product_id=16[/url] (Jacket-shirt)
[url]https://roen-ff15.com/en/html/products/list.php?category_id=7[/url] (the rest of his costume mostly)

I wouldn't suggest suede since it's not really the fabric that's being used in his costume, but whatever feels comfortable for you. I'd compare fabrics to the reference images first before committing to buying the suede. To be honest, I'm a stickler for details and accuracy, in the costume sense (not the body type, I don't care how someone looks, as long as a costume is done with quality and precision, but that's just me.))

The fabric I would suggest for both his jacket (could be considered a Chambray, here's an example of one [url]https://grishley.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/gp750128-00p01v01.jpg[/url]) and pants are black denim. Once you have the denim, I would wax it to give it a somewhat reflective-shiny look. Here's an example of waxed denim. [url]https://cdnb.lystit.com/photos/0ed8-2015/10/02/diesel-black-gold-black-waxed-effect-jeans-product-3-590360700-normal.jpeg[/url]

To wax denim, there are several tutorials on how to do that on Youtube, I say just watch a few videos to see what you like the best. Apparently, there's a way of using candle wax or/and another method where you can use black acrylic paint with a gel medium (gel medium is usually used in paintings to give texture and give a look of shine, [url]http://www.dickblick.com/products/golden-acrylic-gel-mediums/?clickTracking=true&wmcp=pla&wmcid=items&wmckw=00628-1085&gclid=CjwKEAiAmo_CBRC9qbGQssjqi28SJABYTgZxms1yJykVGRqw98_l1HHaZr4lSVR2mzgf3PEOMjy0qBoCix3w_wcB[/url] ----this is the product I've seen used, you can usually buy it at an arts and craft store)

As for the pattern/design of the chambray, I would say either look for a similar chambray that fits you and create a pattern from that. If you don't have a shirt like that, try a thrift store and see if you can find something similar and add to the pattern from that as your base. Another thing you can try is looking in pattern books at fabric stores. Choose a pattern that looks similar and again, work off of that as a basis for the chambray. Here's a video of how to make a chambray. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZNqh2zpd1E[/url] As for the design for the shoulders, it seems to me to look like it's a combinatiion of padding and stitching. A thin layer of some padding underneath, stitching to the shoulder sleeve.

As for the pants, I would say the same as above, work off of some pants or shorts of similar fabric (like denim) and add onto that, adjusting the length of the pants however tall you are. Here's how to make a pattern from scratch and how to assemble it: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es7i00FAGjc[/url] . And here's a video of how to copy a pattern of existing pants you may have: [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTE_3XoaHrI[/url] .

A lot of pre-planning must go into this costume! It should be fun! If I ever do make it, I'll show you what I have done as well. :) Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

This does help!! I have a lot of reference images, the especially from that designer. Though there's a lot of bits I don't like that's been done to the outfit, which was explained to be for functionality/contrast. The only reason I feel like using a Poly-Seude is because I don't want the outfit to be shiny like leather and I don't want it to be as tough as denim y'know? I'm not too great at this since I'm fairly new though, I have a website I use that allows me to buy swatches of fabric for like...dirt cheap so I'm absolutely taking suggestions and ordering some swatches just to see what looks good together and what I'd like to use. 0:

For the pants I'm honestly going to buy some Cargo pants and edit them from there, I've found a lot of really good suited cargo pants that'll work, it'll just take a bit of work to make them look like where I want. Unfortunately though I don't drive and the closest fabric stores and thrift stores are about an hour drive away from where I live, so I have to do mostly online shopping.

I'm trying to be as accurate as I physically can, I've got....so many sewing references saved, fabric sites, sites to buy studs from. I've also got all of the pictures that Prompto takes during the game.

#4 dusklux on 2 years ago

Oh wait! Just looked up chambray and I'm looking into denim but I'm still a little iffy. I do like the look of waxed denim quite a bit, especially since it's not as shiny as the leather that people like to make Noctis' jacket out of....I'll pick up some swatches and see what I think might look best.

Thanks for those tips!

Edit: Actually the more I look at waxed black denim jackets and stuff, the more I really prefer that look over just straight denim. So thank you so much for those tutorials. I wish I had the supplies to start working on this already, I'm very excited!

You wouldn't happen to know about how I would get the buttons for the jacket, would you? A lot of people have been suggesting things like this:
[url]https://www.etsy.com/listing/42186752/pirate-jolly-roger-skull-and-bones?ref=market[/url]

I wish I could make my own but I've searched for a long time trying to find those rounded sort of buttons with the skull and crossbones only to come up with nothing....

#5 ExSoldier-Cloud on 2 years ago

Yeah, I'm personally not too crazy about the leather look either. It's alright, but I like actually being able to wear it something outside of cosplay and besides leather can get expensive.

What I also like about the "waxed denim look" is that once you have the fabric you can customize it to however you want it to look, as to how much shiny or no shine you want to have. I agree too about the look, it just depends on what your preference is really. The denim without the wax or the layer of paint is kinda matte/flat for Noctis' outfit. If you do look into denim, make sure to take into consideration the ounces (Example: 7oz (thinner) vs. 10oz(thicker)). What that means is how thick the fabric is. Also notice the difference in colors of the weaves (like the white threads intertwining with the black threads. Like this one has very little of the white weaving with the black [url]http://demandware.edgesuite.net/sits_joann/dw/image/v2/AAMM_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-joann-product-catalog/default/dw09716de9/images/hi-res/10/10508323.jpg?sw=350&sh=350&sm=fit[/url] . While this one [url]http://cdn-us-ec.yottaa.net/551561a7312e580499000a44/6dfc9540b6ba0132c6c50a3ba3fac80a.yottaa.net/v~13.36/aamm_prd/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-joann-product-catalog/default/dw3afe4682/images/hi-res/16/1617703.jpg?yocs=T_&yoloc=us[/url] has more of the white thread weaving with the black thread).

Also yeah, I try to do my shopping online too since it's cheaper mus the time. But sometimes I'm a little wary 'cause you can never be sure what you're going to get.

I'm glad those tips could help you some! :)

As for the buttons, I would suggest Ebay. Here's a link to some I found: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-Silver-Round-Skull-Crossbones-Metal-Sewing-Shank-Buttons-Craft-Coat-DIY-/232152753388?var=&hash=item360d61e4ec:m:m0Iv57isz1IVn2jUygi1H5A[/url]

And here's some that look closer to the buttons used in the reference photos from Roen: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-Silver-Round-Skull-Crossbones-Metal-Sewing-Shank-Buttons-Craft-Coat-DIY-/232152753388?var=&hash=item360d61e4ec:m:m0Iv57isz1IVn2jUygi1H5A[/url]

When I searched for those buttons, I just used "crossbones buttons".

Ohh, I'm getting excited for whenever I start working on my cosplay!! :D

Edit: Also, I forgot to mention that if you do decide to make you're own pattern, I'd highly recommend using a cheaper, similar fabric of the fabric you've chosen to use for the jacket/pants. That's so if you mess up with a cheaper fabric, you don't need to worry about ruining your more expensive fabric. Thrift store usually have lots of scrap materials.

#6 dusklux on 2 years ago

[QUOTE=ExSoldier-Cloud;5045676]Yeah, I'm personally not too crazy about the leather look either. It's alright, but I like actually being able to wear it something outside of cosplay and besides leather can get expensive.

What I also like about the "waxed denim look" is that once you have the fabric you can customize it to however you want it to look, as to how much shiny or no shine you want to have. I agree too about the look, it just depends on what your preference is really. The denim without the wax or the layer of paint is kinda matte/flat for Noctis' outfit. If you do look into denim, make sure to take into consideration the ounces (Example: 7oz (thinner) vs. 10oz(thicker)). What that means is how thick the fabric is. Also notice the difference in colors of the weaves (like the white threads intertwining with the black threads. Like this one has very little of the white weaving with the black [url]http://demandware.edgesuite.net/sits_joann/dw/image/v2/AAMM_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-joann-product-catalog/default/dw09716de9/images/hi-res/10/10508323.jpg?sw=350&sh=350&sm=fit[/url] . While this one [url]http://cdn-us-ec.yottaa.net/551561a7312e580499000a44/6dfc9540b6ba0132c6c50a3ba3fac80a.yottaa.net/v~13.36/aamm_prd/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-joann-product-catalog/default/dw3afe4682/images/hi-res/16/1617703.jpg?yocs=T_&yoloc=us[/url] has more of the white thread weaving with the black thread).

Also yeah, I try to do my shopping online too since it's cheaper mus the time. But sometimes I'm a little wary 'cause you can never be sure what you're going to get.

I'm glad those tips could help you some! :)

As for the buttons, I would suggest Ebay. Here's a link to some I found: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-Silver-Round-Skull-Crossbones-Metal-Sewing-Shank-Buttons-Craft-Coat-DIY-/232152753388?var=&hash=item360d61e4ec:m:m0Iv57isz1IVn2jUygi1H5A[/url]

And here's some that look closer to the buttons used in the reference photos from Roen: [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/20pcs-Silver-Round-Skull-Crossbones-Metal-Sewing-Shank-Buttons-Craft-Coat-DIY-/232152753388?var=&hash=item360d61e4ec:m:m0Iv57isz1IVn2jUygi1H5A[/url]

When I searched for those buttons, I just used "crossbones buttons".

Ohh, I'm getting excited for whenever I start working on my cosplay!! :D

Edit: Also, I forgot to mention that if you do decide to make you're own pattern, I'd highly recommend using a cheaper, similar fabric of the fabric you've chosen to use for the jacket/pants. That's so if you mess up with a cheaper fabric, you don't need to worry about ruining your more expensive fabric. Thrift store usually have lots of scrap materials.[/QUOTE]


Thank you soooo much! You've helped quite a bit! I'm going to do my best to make this as accurate as possible, I have drawings down already of his outfit and specific designs/fabrics. I'm thinking I'll start on this in January hopefully, or February but the sooner the better!

I found some boots that'll look really good as well, they literally have basically the exact same sole designs as Noctis' boots and look the same just they don't have all the details added yet. Which I'm absolutely going to take about a week or two to do myself.

Again, I can't thank you enough you've been such a big help! I'll be sure to post pictures of my progress once I get started!

#7 ExSoldier-Cloud on 2 years ago

Oh wow! How lucky! I hope I'm able to find some! Are you also going to paint the bottom of the soles red too??

I'm glad I was to help out some! And yes! Please post from work in progress pictures if you have the chance! I'd love to see the process. But if you can't, that's fine. :) Either way, I'd personally love to see the end product. Good luck for when you begin your project. :D

#8 dusklux on 2 years ago

[QUOTE=ExSoldier-Cloud;5045684]Oh wow! How lucky! I hope I'm able to find some! Are you also going to paint the bottom of the soles red too??

I'm glad I was to help out some! And yes! Please post from work in progress pictures if you have the chance! I'd love to see the process. But if you can't, that's fine. :) Either way, I'd personally love to see the end product. Good luck for when you begin your project. :D[/QUOTE]

I'm absolutely going to paint the soles, I've heard a few good methods on how to do it and have the paint last for quite a while 0:

also yeah absolutely! I'll at least post progress shots and even the pattern I make

#9 ExSoldier-Cloud on 2 years ago

Mind if I ask what method you're using to paint soles? I'm curious as to wait is best because I would assume as you walk the soles are subject to rubbing against the ground. If you know of something that will stay firm and not chip or rub off, that would be great! I was thinking spray paint, but I know eventually the friction of walking with probably fade it out.

#10 dusklux on 2 years ago

[QUOTE=ExSoldier-Cloud;5045780]Mind if I ask what method you're using to paint soles? I'm curious as to wait is best because I would assume as you walk the soles are subject to rubbing against the ground. If you know of something that will stay firm and not chip or rub off, that would be great! I was thinking spray paint, but I know eventually the friction of walking with probably fade it out.[/QUOTE]

well I've heard not to use like, acrylic paints or anything. Someone suggested vinyl paint so that's what i'm going to use
specifically this one [URL="http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/dupli-color-high-performance-vinyl-and-fabric-paint-0473603p.html"]here[/URL]

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